Can you spot the CrossFitter? Adam Edison from Rare CrossFit at the Holiday Lakes 50k+. Total milage ran in training for this event. 7 miles, and that has been since October 2008.. Viva La CrossFit.
Our friend Nicki Violetti, shares some thoughts that we all need to look at. Thanks Nicki.
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61 Comments:
Comment by Chris Alessi — February 23, 2009 at 11:43am
Comment by J Turnage — February 23, 2009 at 11:53am
Comment by Jennifer Lawrence — February 23, 2009 at 12:17pm
Comment by Daniel Hoops — February 23, 2009 at 1:35pm
Comment by Dustin — February 23, 2009 at 6:29pm
Comment by MarcH — February 23, 2009 at 9:12pm
Comment by Emre — February 23, 2009 at 9:17pm
Comment by Paul Connolly — February 23, 2009 at 9:44pm
Comment by John McBrien — February 23, 2009 at 9:46pm
Comment by J Turnage — February 23, 2009 at 10:12pm
Depending on the ultra depends on the distance. Clients that I train for marathons will not touch a 13.1 ultra course. There is no need for that. My clients that I train for 50 mile runs will do a 10K, a 90 min TT or 60 min TT. They touch those TT about 1 each and the 10K maybe 3 times. When Carl trained for his 100 mile he did a 13.1 one time a 90 TT one time and a 60 min TT one time. So dealing with marathons my clients stay 10 K and under and mostly interval based runs (200,400,800, 1-2 mile, 1K, 5K). Dealing with ultra's you still don't want to stay too long. Hope this helps let me know.
Comment by J xfit milford — February 23, 2009 at 11:14pm
Comment by J Turnage — February 24, 2009 at 12:02am
Comment by Pablo — February 24, 2009 at 12:28am
Comment by Kevin — February 24, 2009 at 1:38am
Comment by MarcH — February 24, 2009 at 2:07am
Comment by CME — February 24, 2009 at 2:18am
Comment by Kevin — February 24, 2009 at 2:29am
Comment by John Warner — February 24, 2009 at 2:35am
Comment by Bryan ACF — February 24, 2009 at 2:45am
Comment by John McBrien — February 24, 2009 at 3:13am
Mate, I respect your opinion but what I believe Jay is saying is that he doesnt give his athletes anything over the 2 hour mark for TT leading up to an event of any sort. BMack makes this very clear at the cert that this is what we are trying to avoid in regard to longer efforts .5k,10k,1m repeats, 5k repeats, along with the shorter intervals should be the staple of your programming along with the intensive 200,400,800,s, even if you are running a 100 miler.
Jay and I have Carl's 100 mile prep over a 3 month period and I can testify that he ran ONE 13.1 mile race over that period. An astonishing 100.3 miles were trained over that time.The freak nailed a mid 20,s place finish I do believe. Now, carl is definately not training for the 1 race.
Also, am I missing something?
FGB ...mate,thats got to be one of the most intense ,if not the most brutal 18 minutes(with rest) of ya life!
Comment by bk — February 24, 2009 at 3:13am
Comment by J Turnage — February 24, 2009 at 3:19am
I understand what you are saying, but you missing the point of CrossFit and CrossFit endurance (as J and John have pointed out). Who gives a crap if you run a 16min 5K, what else can you do. Does that make you fit? Prob not, their you become a specialist and that is the only thing you can do. I bet you Adam will deadlift, pull-up, ring dip, squat, press, pull, and run his ass off around anybody.
Comment by J xfit milford — February 24, 2009 at 3:31am
Comment by J Turnage — February 24, 2009 at 3:33am
With all that said, lets take that 16min 5ker and throw him into a situation that might require something other than his/her VO2 to save the day. Maybe lifting an object off his/her child, or climbing something, or even carrying another individual. The 16min 5ker now has nothing to fall back on. These athletes here can not only run 5K's at a decent clip they will eat the specialist for lunch in anything else that would require fitness. The mere fact that you've based fitness or the best CrossFit can do off of a man running a 50k on less training in 4 months than 99.9% of the athletes do in a week sums up your lack of not only intelligence on the matter, but arrogance.
What is your Fran time my friend? And in relation to that, what is your 5k time? I bet, if we were to compare the two differences in relation to 100% of our athletes, you won't hold a candle to their overall time... In fact, I bet our there is a bigger difference in terms of time with "Fran" than there is in a 5k. Want to bet most of our women are faster at both than a 16min 5ker? I could be wrong, but I'm willing to go with my gut on this...
Comment by bmack — February 24, 2009 at 3:42am
Thanx for clearing that up. I do respect your opinion and enjoy reading your posts. Its a great thing how CFE is coming along in leaps and bounds and changing the face of how our athletes are trained. We are doing it right here folks, on the message boards..evidence based fitness.
J....FGB?
Comment by bk — February 24, 2009 at 3:54am
Comment by J Turnage — February 24, 2009 at 4:03am
Comment by j xfit milford — February 24, 2009 at 4:08am
Comment by J Turnage — February 24, 2009 at 4:13am
Comment by Adam — February 24, 2009 at 4:16am
Solid,solid,solid! I am suprised you didnt jump off a bridge and swim 10k with it!
Bench Press 20 times ya weight after 50 miles? FREAK!
There it is 'Evidence Based Fitness'.
CF and CFE....breeding monsters today and for the future.
Comment by bk — February 24, 2009 at 4:26am
Comment by Nicole Gibson — February 24, 2009 at 4:31am
That being said today I did the long course 10k finish time 38:42. And that was after I did "Nasty Girls".....so take THAT!!
Comment by shariBaby — February 24, 2009 at 5:01am
Comment by D Smith - crossfitcyclist.wordpress.com — February 24, 2009 at 5:04am
Comment by myles — February 24, 2009 at 5:13am
Comment by Nicole Gibson — February 24, 2009 at 5:24am
Comment by Nicole — February 24, 2009 at 5:26am
Comment by aegean — February 24, 2009 at 5:29am
Comment by Bryan ACF — February 24, 2009 at 5:44am
Comment by Adam — February 24, 2009 at 5:58am
Still getting over the stomach flu. 10K run. 51:21. First 5k split was 23 mins, slowed down after that but finished strong. A good time for me since I am not what you would call a typical distance runner, considering I weighed 260, 16 months ago.
Kevin.... I like the POSE videos and books, I feel they have helped me considerably on remembering and practicing the drills. I had 3 knee surgeries (2 reconstructions) from college Rugby and Kickboxing in days gone by..... I have no knee problems now. I also recommend getting instruction if you can. I did and it made a huge difference.
Comment by Rob Lorenzini — February 24, 2009 at 6:01am
Nicole - I used to have the same problem. Saw a sports therapist about it several years ago. They give you exercises to do, but the best thing for me was to consciously correct it while running and walking. Eventually it becomes natural. It should also take pressure off of your knees. I used to have terrible knee problems that really flared up when I played soccer. A shoe with good support (aasics are great) around the ankle will help keep your feet from pronating inwards if that is a problem for you now. It also helps with plantar fesciitis. In any event, self-correcting how you walk is a great place to start. Took me a couple of years, but now I walk and run normally and no longer get knee problems. Good luck on your quest to correct the duck feet! You'll get there.
Comment by KelseyK — February 24, 2009 at 6:13am
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Comment by Erik Fielder — February 24, 2009 at 8:27am
Comment by JBReyn — February 24, 2009 at 9:24am
Adam, are you running any ultras in VA in the near future? I am looking at the Bel Monte Endurance Run (50K with 7K of assent) at the end of March and the Mountain Massocist in Nov. solely on CF and CFE.
Comment by CoreyP — February 24, 2009 at 9:29am
I attribute CF to my increased strength, my lack of injuries and general wellbeing. I am a firm believer that your system works, but wish I could get my head around only running 3 times per week!!!!! I am getting very good results doing what I am doing and have some big events coming up and don't want to go backwards from reducing my running to much - I guess the only way to truley find out is by diving in.
Comment by Simon O'Regan — February 24, 2009 at 9:32am
Comment by Adam - RARE CrossFit — February 24, 2009 at 10:49am
2 mile TT - 6:20, 6:20 = 12:40 - flat road
Comment by E5fyrman — February 24, 2009 at 3:19pm
That was one hell of a swim, and this site has really helped me convert from being a sprinter to a long distance sprinter!
Comment by Jimmy D — February 24, 2009 at 10:30pm
I think you'll find many people on this site have gone from supportive type running shoes to wanting something that mostly just protects the bottom of their feet AND it's made them faster and less prone to injury. Obivously, with progression. Email me if you have questions!! itsgotime8 @ gmail.com
Comment by Nicole Gibson — February 24, 2009 at 11:43pm
Comment by Will M — February 24, 2009 at 11:51pm
Comment by joshinma — February 25, 2009 at 12:14pm
Comment by Smash — February 25, 2009 at 2:02pm
Comment by Carter — February 26, 2009 at 4:12am
41.52 Not a great time for me, but check out the 5k splits and the wind effects!
5k Okahu Bay to St Heliers - wind retarded 22.22 (4.28 km pace) - felt like running with a ball and chain...
5k back to Okahu - wind assisted, 19.30 (3.54 km pace), whoo hoo, felt like I was flying sometimes!
I gave it heaps; it was Angie and burpee/boxjumps this week that made it harder. Not complaining though! It will only make me stronger next time...
Comment by Mike McMillan — March 5, 2009 at 11:46am
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